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 04-22-2015, 08:48 PM | #1 |
cnollfan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,366 | Equibase can't display dead heats Equibase has new software that apparently is incapable of displaying dead heats. As near as I can tell this affects DRF and brisnet.com as well. Today (April 22) in the 8th race at Keeneland there was a dead heat for third between #1 Can't Miss and # 2 Ribbon Cutter. But the chart indicates that Ribbon Cutter finished 4th. No show payoff is listed for Ribbon Cutter. The running line preview in Equibase shows Can't Miss's finish as 3rd, beaten 5 lengths, and Ribbon Cutter's finish as 4th, beaten 6 3/4 lengths. I mentioned it to Brisnet, expecting that they would fix it, and this was the relevant portion of the response: I spoke with our programmers and they informed me that our data providers have the information structured in a set way that does not allow to indicate two runners in the dead heat. This respose is unacceptable IMHO. Any thoughts on who this should be escalated to? |
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| 04-23-2015, 05:14 AM | #2 |
duncan04 Let's go Reds!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,976 | Try contacting Equibase directly?? __________________ |
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| 04-23-2015, 10:23 AM | #3 |
classhandicapper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 20,884 | DRF Formulator, DRF PDF, and DRFPRO charts look fine. __________________ |
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| 04-23-2015, 10:55 AM | #4 |
Jeff P Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses. Posts: 5,342 | Looks like the charts data distributed by Equibase was corrected late last night. The original had the correct parimutuel show payoffs for the two horses that dead heated for third - but had their finish positions as third and fourth. The corrected chart that I downloaded from HDW a few minutes looks fine. -jp . __________________ |
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| 04-23-2015, 01:39 PM | #5 |
cnollfan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,366 | Quote: Originally Posted by Jeff P Looks like the charts data distributed by Equibase was corrected late last night. The original had the correct parimutuel show payoffs for the two horses that dead heated for third - but had their finish positions as third and fourth. The corrected chart that I downloaded from HDW a few minutes looks fine. -jp . Right. They fixed it. The original chart didn't show a dead-heat, just referenced one in the payoffs and comments. |
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| 04-24-2015, 02:50 AM | #6 |
takeout Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,184 | The BRIS chart still doesn't have both show payoffs in it. |
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| 04-24-2015, 04:30 PM | #7 |
cnollfan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,366 | Bris said that is a bug that they may fix down the road. |
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| 04-24-2015, 07:29 PM | #8 |
takeout Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,184 | BRIS may fix it? |
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| 04-25-2015, 09:33 AM | #9 |
Tom The Voice of Reason! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Canandaigua, New york Posts: 113,690 | More chart problems at BRIS? Someone, in another thread, said I was wriong that the industry is run by idiots? Customer service at BRIS........not too impressive. __________________ |
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| 04-26-2015, 02:35 PM | #10 |
raybo EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,206 | Quote: Originally Posted by Tom More chart problems at BRIS? Someone, in another thread, said I was wriong that the industry is run by idiots? Customer service at BRIS........not too impressive. Just one of the several reasons I quit using Brisnet data, after being a loyal customer for years. When a company starts doing things half-assed it's time to take your business elsewhere. __________________ Excel Spreadsheet Handicapping Forum Charter Member: Horseplayers Association of North America |
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| 04-26-2015, 10:39 PM | #11 |
takeout Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,184 | Probably been going on for some time. Came across one on 1/29/15 at CT, race 7. Dead heat for 2nd but only one of the horses has a payoff listed. |
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| 04-27-2015, 12:20 PM | #12 |
Pensacola Pete Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 729 | Like its counterparts in the racing industry, BRIS is still living in the past, when racing was still a major player, casinos weren't widespread, and they could do whatever they pleased. I'm surprised they ever upgraded from 2400 baud dialup modems. |
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| 04-27-2015, 12:35 PM | #13 |
Tom The Voice of Reason! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Canandaigua, New york Posts: 113,690 | The game is run by idiots. How you have any respect for an industry that so incompetent that you cannot believe any of the data about it? __________________ |
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